Sunday, May 18, 2008

For A Noise Free Florida

Hello Everyone,

Evelyn here,

with more of the NoiseOff and the FOX Video - Sarasota noise ordinance allows impounding vehicle. The following are reply to the earlier message.

A word of cautious, and in reference to “Poor people”. Be highly suspicious of anyone who wants to narrow crime down to one particular race or gender. Crime has no color and many colors. Our objective is to stay on topic and not be drawn into petty and worthless debates, which only purpose is to create confusion and dissension among those of us wanting changes our current law(s) to prevent further crime and to better protect all citizens of Florida.


Evelyn out.

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From: noiseoff@yahoogroups.com
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1a.  Re: FOX Video - Sarasota noise ordinance allows impounding vehicles Posted by: "Judy Ellis" jellis5610@tampabay.rr.com   taichijudy Sun May 18, 2008 5:24 am (PDT)
Aimed at poor people?

How many poor people do you know with 16 subwoofers in an Expedition?

Mr. Adkins needs a little education. Go get him!

----- Original Message -----
From: BanBoomcars
To: noiseoff@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: [noiseoff] FOX Video - Sarasota noise ordinance allows impounding vehicles

Sarasota Florida police will be allowed to impound Boom Cars under a new
noise ordinance. They realize that tickets are not effective at solving the
problem.

A boom car thug in the FOX video has a $16,000 car stereo and has received
70 tickets - he continues to violate the rights of everyone within blocks of
his car.

Ron Czapala

FOX news video:

http://tinyurl.com/6lf84z



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Re: FOX Video - Sarasota noise ordinance allows impounding vehicles Posted by: "Peter" allreet@yahoo.com   allreet Sun May 18, 2008 5:24 am (PDT)
Oh yeah the new law targets "poor" people?

I can't even afford $16,000 for a whole car, and this nincompoop spends that much on his stereo.

BanBoomcars <banboomcars@insightbb.com> wrote: Sarasota Florida police will be allowed to impound Boom Cars under a new
noise ordinance. They realize that tickets are not effective at solving the
problem.

A boom car thug in the FOX video has a $16,000 car stereo and has received
70 tickets - he continues to violate the rights of everyone within blocks of
his car.

Ron Czapala

FOX news video:

http://tinyurl.com/6lf84z

or

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage
<http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streaming
Format=FLASH&referralObject=402024&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954
dc049d70b0c12f2749&maven_referrer=staf>
&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=402024&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05
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Re: FOX Video - Sarasota noise ordinance allows impounding vehicles Posted by: "jp2spidey@aol.com" jp2spidey@aol.com   jp2spidey2000 Sun May 18, 2008 5:24 am (PDT)
"minorities and poor people"????? 16,000 bucks?? i can't afford that and
i'm not poor.....

congrats again for all the hard work down there in FLA.

hope GA starts enforcing these laws.

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Fw: Poor people? Posted by: "Judy Ellis" jellis5610@tampabay.rr.com   taichijudy Sun May 18, 2008 5:24 am (PDT)
Email sent to Mr. Ignorant Atkins today. The previous Fox interview with Chris (My Momma Loves Me) Prince was attached.

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Ellis
To: Fredd.Atkins@Sarasotagov.com
Cc: kelly.kirschner@sarasotagov.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: Poor people?

How many 'poor' people do you know with 16 subwoofers in the back of an Expedition? I've been studying 'boomers' for four years and I can tell you with absolute certainty that the average one is an 18-25 year-old with some disposable income. That's a fact.

Take a look at the attached video from another tv interview on this subject. What color is that kid? And where did this 'poor' little tyke get $7000 to put into his car? Watch him stare right into the camera and tell the world that a $70 fine isn't enough to stop him.

Sir, if a neighborhood is 80% black, then most of the boomers are black. If the neighborhood is 80% white, most of the boomers are white. The people who pay the price for this anti-social and obnoxious conduct are white, brown, red, yellow....

We who suffer pounding hearts and throbbing heads and elevated blood pressure and absolutely awful adrenaline-generated fits of aggression and ruined communities and relatives who are in high-risk emergency vehicles don't give a DAMN what color the boomer is, or how much money he makes, or anything else about him. WE JUST WANT HIM TO STOP!

Here's the point: They instituted impoundment in Peoria and the problem went away.

Now, what's your question?

Judy Ellis
Noise Free Florida




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More on motorcycles Posted by: "Judy Ellis" jellis5610@tampabay.rr.com   taichijudy Sun May 18, 2008 5:24 am (PDT)
So the owner of our local motorcycle shop thinks that the laws for speeding should be aimed at rehabilitation, not punishment. I think a $1000 fine is sufficient motivation for self-rehab, don't you?
This bill is aimed at cars as well, but when's the last time you saw a car doing 50 mph over the speed limit on a public roadway? On our highway that's 115 - an exceptional speed for a car but just about normal daily activity for a lot of cycles.

What thisarticle doesn't tell you is buried in the photo caption. I have a lot of clients in a mobile home park adjacent to Quaker Steak & Lube; every Wednesday evening is a living nightmare for them - the noise of these hogs coming and going has ruined their lives.

Bill puts brakes on speeders
By Jared Leone, Times Staff Writer
In print: Saturday, May 17, 2008

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James Franzolino, 24, center, and Wac, 28, left, hang out at the Quaker Steak and Lube in Pinellas Park on Wednesday night. "I like my license. I like my life. You can't outrun a radio," said Franzolino.
[DANIEL WALLACE | Times]




Excessive speeding. Stunt riding. A disappearing license plate.

If you're a motorcyclist caught doing any of that in the near future, get ready to open your wallet. The same is true for automobile drivers caught speeding more than 50 mph over the speed limit.

Under a little-noticed bill (HB 137) overwhelmingly approved by the Legislature and headed to Gov. Charlie Crist for approval, excessive speeders would pay $1,000 for a first offense, starting Oct. 1. The penalty used to be a $250.

The legislation is the brainchild of state Rep. Carlos Lopez-Cantera, R-Miami, who said he was inspired while riding with the Florida Highway Patrol.

He saw groups of bikes cruising at speeds as high as 136 mph. He saw a motorcyclist pull a wheelie while speeding through a SunPass lane. Another time, a speeding motorcyclist flipped up his license plate anticipating a chase after noticing that the Highway Patrol was following him.

Then Lopez-Cantera read a story about a motorcyclist who lost his life. His legislation targets not just speeders, but also requires that moped riders and motorcyclists keep both wheels on the ground at all times and requires bike owners to affix their license tags horizontally, not vertically as has become popular on some custom bikes.

"The problem is, a car that can perform at these speeds costs six figures, yet a motorcycle that costs $10,000 can do 200 mph," Lopez-Cantera said.

Under the bill, second-time speeding offenders could lose their license for one year and get a $2,500 fine. Third-time offenders would risk losing their license for 10 years and their vehicle would be confiscated.

Initially, Lopez-Cantera's bill targeted only speeding motorcyclists, drawing ire from the American Motorcyclist Association as discriminatory.

But even with the change to include speeding drivers of all types, Imer Szauter, who works for the association in Ohio, has questions: "Will the bill work as the sponsor intended it? I am not sure it will do that."

Area riders who joined a weekly gathering of 3,000 motorcyclists in Clearwater recently agreed.

Sitting outside the Quaker Steak and Lube on 49th Street N, Jeff Nuce, a former motorcycle police officer, lamented the law would require him to change his license tag. Nuce, 39, rode to the restaurant on the "Dark Knight," a $78,000 Batman-themed chopper with Batman logo mirrors, custom paint and Batman logo rims. It also has a sideways license plate - an infraction that would be worth a $1,000 fine in October.

"On a custom bike, it takes away from the aesthetic appeal of the bike," Nuce said. "I don't want to break the law, but when I take that off of there, it changes the whole look of the motorcycle."

Tim Hellijas, 38, rode in on a Kawasaki ZX-10, a sport bike with a top speed of 185 mph.

"It's justifiable to a certain extent," Hellijas said about the stringent changes aimed at speeders. "This thing does twice the speed limit in first gear." But he wondered if it might just provoke some riders.

Jeff Hieber, general manager of Barney's Motorcycle & Marine in St. Petersburg, one of the area's largest retailers, agrees with Hellijas' assessment.

"It is not set up around rehabilitation, it is set up on punishment," Hieber said. "Especially with a kid who just got his license. They are going to believe that running is the answer."

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Boom car drives off, dragging police officer Posted by: "BanBoomcars" banboomcars@insightbb.com   banboomers Sun May 18, 2008 5:24 am (PDT)
Authorities say Balatgek had approached the driver because of loud music in
the car.
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Motorist drives off, dragging Reading, Pa. police officer

5/16/2008, 10:10 a.m. EDT

The Associated Press

READING, Pa. (AP) - A Reading police officer was injured when a motorist he
was questioning suddenly drove off with the officer clinging to the side of
the car.

Police and witnesses say Officer Steve Balatgek was dragged about three
blocks Thursday evening before falling to the street. He was treated and
released from Reading Hospital.

Authorities say Balatgek had approached the driver because of loud music in
the car. When the officer asked for the motorist's license and registration,
the driver reached for it, then stepped on the gas, dragging Balatgek with
him.

Police say they later found a car matching the description of the auto.
Officials say they questioned the owner but police told WFMZ-TV that the
owner claimed he was not driving.



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